Fifteen minutes changed an entire crop for Cameron Peirce

Paul Yeager: Hey everybody, I'm Paul Yeager This is the MtoM Show podcast, a production of Iowa PBS and the Market to Market TV show. In 2022, we talked to Kansas farmer Cameron Peirce twice, and we need to find out how the crop finished. This is not in the way that a storybook would have it or a Disney ending or however you want to put it. He said there were 15 minutes that changed everything. For several of his crops. We're going to talk wheat sunflowers, canola and a new crop as he looks forward to 2023. Spoiler alert. A farmer is optimistic about a new year we'll find out what's on Cameron's mind as the calendar flips what he's been up to. And will also get back into sunflowers is that story is far from over as well. That's this installment of the M to M Show podcast. Cameron, you're back in the office? You're not in some random hotel room at a meeting like we chatted last time. Did you end up traveling a lot in 22?

Cameron Peirce: Um, I mean, not as you know, honestly, 2020 20 was the we traveled five times in 2020 in the COVID COVID year and and ever since then, it's just been downhill ever since for traveling for doing much of anything. But at the last time you and I talked. We were in a hotel room. I think we were probably in Bismarck or in Fargo I kind of forget which one it was I think it was in Fargo.

Paul Yeager: I think it was two you're about to go out, I think to dinner out like more hitters. They were taking you somewhere that night, I think yeah, right. Right. Right. Right.

Cameron Peirce: So that meeting is actually coming up again here in two weeks. And so we'll fly from fly up to Fargo and then I've got another meeting and in DC again on just piggyback and so leave one meeting fly to DC and do another meeting. So with Farm Bureau. So but yeah, I mean, as far as traveling goes, I mean, I've got a couple of trips planned a couple of trips to DC for lobbying and, and otherwise, you know, we stay home work on the farm once in a while.

Paul Yeager: We'll get to your travels in a minute. I mean, I opened with travel, of course, but I wanted to talk about the farm last year. When we talked it was I think I was given the standard Kansas farmer answer of Well, it all depends if it rains.

Cameron Peirce: Oh, let me just let me just say that last year was probably in my 30 plus years of farming was the worst year on the farm in terms of yields, because it didn't rain. And then on September 20, we had a hailstorm come through here and just pretty much finished the rest of it off. So I don't want to sound doom and gloom, but it was I there wasn't really much to do last fall are calm and just didn't get that many hours on it. So,

Paul Yeager: so a September hailstorm has has to be one of the more frustrating ones to get?

Cameron Peirce: It is and I got it. The frustrating part was it got over here good stuff. You know, so you think you typically when you get to September, you're fairly safe in dodging a hailstorm. But we had golf ball sized hail for 15 minutes, and it just took things to the to the ground. You know, we went ahead and cut we have a circle of flowers and and a drip tape ad of beans. And we went ahead and cut them just because I knew insurance was gonna come out there and say, Well, you know, they might make more than once you think they will. And so I went ahead to cut everything. And the beans was mainly just so I wouldn't have to sit there and stare at them all. All winter long. You know, it was like as a reminder of what happened. And so we wouldn't hadn't cut the beans and they made a bushel and a half an acre. So you know, it just wasn't it wasn't anything there. And the sunflowers I think they made ended up making five or 600 pounds. You know, we're we're expecting 3000 You know, so it was definitely a definitely a hit, I guess if you will so so it worked out that the monitor around here is 2023 has to be better. 

Paul Yeager: I'm sitting here looking I pulled up intentionally the drought map to looking at your window right now. You don't have any snow cover, right?

Cameron Peirce: We know we don't but actually as far as moisture goes we're we've caught a couple rains. And so for this point in in the wheat growing period, we're adequate. That moisture in the I'd say in the in the continuous wheat fields probably goes down. Oh easily three to four feet. In the double crop stuff. I think maybe we have maybe a foot and a half to two foot a profile moisture. So we can make it we can make it a while. We've had a bunch of fog in December in January. So you know if you buy into the 90 day fog rule, you know, March can be pretty wet. So we'll see what happens but the I used to give it 92 Other days because that way has a better chance of of actually coming to work?

Paul Yeager: Well, I think just before I contacted you, before we talked, I did see there were plenty of Nebraska and Kansas farmers that were saying that same thing. So they're, you're counting on it. As I look at Kansas, again, remind folks where you are from Wichita.

Cameron Peirce: So south central Kansas, we're about 45 minutes northwest of Wichita. So we're, I mean, kind of right in the center of the state, east to west but a little bit, a little bit south of center, north to south. 

Paul Yeager: and you you talk to many national people, but let's talk about the state people that you refer to in Kansas, as I look at Western southwestern Kansas, it's a exceptional drought, it's D4, it's the worst category in the middle of January, February, is that that's not normal. Right.

Cameron Peirce: Now, we were I was just up at the young farmer and ranch, the Farm Bureau, a young farmer rancher convention in Manhattan over the weekend. And the Sunfire commission had a booth up there. So we got to see lots of lots of people from across the state. And I have a friend that lives out in very southwest Kansas, and he said their wheats not hasn't come up. And the wheat never came up last year. I mean, you know, they have to tear two years of wheat crop in the ground that they've never seen. You know, I honestly, Paul, I, I'm not cut out for that kind of that kind of farming, where you just put it out there and walk away. And I mean, that could do it. So it's hard, hard enough watching things just slowly wither on the vine here, you know, hailstorms, one thing it's in it's quick, it's done. But slowly watching something die or or not come up or not come up. Yeah, is difficult. And there was another, another friend from a little further a little further east and south and southwest Kansas, and he was saying the same thing. Now there are weeks up, you know, so I mean, I just hope that the wind doesn't blow her blow hard in March and stuff like Yeah, cuz we'll end up with another December 15, like we had, you know, a year and a half ago, you know, and so it just was a big, big wall and wall dust came through.

Paul Yeager: That is a concern, right? Because if something can't grow, it can't have roots in any of the soil to hold on the soil

Cameron Peirce: you can't cover it's just like compounds itself and just can't cover the soil. And so, you know, you've got to have a living root out there. You want to have some cover, but, man, we need some help from we need some help from Mother Nature. You know, and the good Lord above that would provide some some moisture for us.

Paul Yeager: So and you're going on your friends in the west of you, they're going on several years of this, I mean, this has become more of a common than uncommon thing. 

Cameron Peirce: Yeah, I used to say two to three years out of 10 they have good crops, you know, because while they're probably still fertilizing, they're still doing everything they need to do, but it was it doesn't rain, all that fertilizer is still there. And so then when they do get good moisture, you know, then hey, got pretty fantastic crop. So that, you know, I feel for my work, we're right on the edge of that, that the Fords are out and it actually kind of extends over into into Southeast Kansas a little bit, which is kind of unusual and, and on the weather. We've been watching systems go to the south, you know, Oklahoma and Arkansas, and a friend lives in Arkansas, and he's like, Hey, I'm getting seven or eight inches of snow and I was like really fell and then it goes by to the north. You know, there's several places in Kansas, I think the Wichita meteorological station down there said that Goodland had 25 inches of snow this year, and which tiles had five and we've had we've had less than that. I mean, I would say we maybe we've had two inches and about four loss, you know, flurry events and so it's it's it's hit and miss we've had more rain than snow. So I don't want to we're way better shape. We're here in Hutch than they are out west. Yeah.

Paul Yeager: So as you plan ahead, it's it sounds like it's been a this is a common spot. Yeah, it might rain. It's rained a little does it give you optimism for 23?

Cameron Peirce: You know, farmers are the eternal optimist. I mean, it's, it's gonna get better. You know, that's just what we do. It's just gonna get better, it has to get better. So but no, we're, I mean, we're excited for for this next year, we're going to plant a bunch more sunflowers and, and, you know, keep pushing, keep pushing through. We've been working in the shop, you know, different doing projects. And you know, having my oldest son here to help on the farm has been, I mean, it's fantastic. And both boys were home over. Hayden, the youngest son was home over Christmas break and, you know, you come out here I walk out here and watch both boys just side by side you know? brainstorming something or you know how to do a project and just it just makes it dad proud. You know, it's like, you know, this is this is what it's all about, you know, just love. I love it. So, you know, I wouldn't I wouldn't change, I wouldn't change anything about it

Paul Yeager: that allows you to go places to it does.

Cameron Peirce: It does Yeah. Now I have to ask for permission. I was like, hey, Connor, are you okay? If I do? Yeah, yep, no problem be fine. So yeah, that's, that's kind of nice.

Paul Yeager: That's good. As long as

Cameron Peirce: not during planting season, you know, we're, you know, we need to be spraying and planting and tending to the, to the planter and stuff like that. So, yeah, and that's actually what we're working on some of the projects we're working on is to make it more. So it's, it's less of a two man or a committee operation to be able to run an operation on the farm, he can, you know, have be self self sufficient, where he's at. So

Paul Yeager: if you're watching this on YouTube, you occasionally if you see a little light go up on Cameron's face, it's because Connor is in there welding, right?

Cameron Peirce: Yeah, right. Yeah, you can see that I can see it now. When you

Paul Yeager: said that before we started rolling. I'm like, oh, no, no, I see it. Totally. So what's he's working on the planter? You said?

Cameron Peirce: Well, actually, we resurrected a truck that we hadn't used in like 13 years. And just because I we all thought it had some major problems and, and he's like, it's perfectly good truck. Let's get it going. And so, you know, we're, that's what we're doing. So he's building a headache rack basically for for a flatbed truck. And so that's what he's welding on. Right now. If I had curtains here in the office, I would have pulled them so he would be you'll see the flashing.

Paul Yeager: It's okay, it's alright.

Cameron Peirce: You know, it's cool. It's 10 degrees outside, it's 65 degrees inside here. So we'd much rather just be inside. So 10 degrees,

Paul Yeager: it's 10 degrees here. The onboard thermometer, my computer says 10. So that's rare that we're the same temperature on a on a winter day, I had to actually make sure my seventh grader wars coat to school today. You know, those middle schoolers, they don't like to wear coats.

Cameron Peirce: We got to shipment yesterday from some wood and the guy got out of his truck and he was wearing shorts. It was like it was eight degrees out yesterday is really from Canada.

Paul Yeager: Hey, that's super warm from where I'm from. Yeah. Last week, we had Sean Hackett on the show from Florida. And I always tell him, I like to invite him to Iowa in January, just to remind him, you know why he's lives where he lives. And he says, oh, yeah, yeah, this is great. He had his winter coat. He'd been kind of galavanting around and but he says this isn't going to be my coldest I'm scheduled to go to Alberta in February. I go willingly. blink twice. If this is against your will, you know.

Cameron Peirce: It's that kind of like going to Fargo on February.

Paul Yeager: Yes, yes.

Cameron Peirce: All right, guys, if you've read this, I love Fargo already if you're saying this sorry, guys.

Paul Yeager: But they know it. That's that's how it weeds. It's a weed out. Those who don't make it through winter. Don't stay there. Right, right. Yeah. You don't love us at my worst. You can't be here with my best in salary. Yeah,

Cameron Peirce: that's good thing.

Paul Yeager: When you've been in Fargo, it's been sunflower meetings. When we talked last year, a couple of times. The story was about sunflowers. Now your flowers are different than others. But there are people in your meetings who are those that can grow that might they'll never dent to what Ukraine produced. But where is that topic now? In discussion of? We don't we know a little bit more about what's going on in Ukraine. And some crop is getting to the port. What has that disc? What has changed in that discussion?

Cameron Peirce: Well, I just I just visited with my friend from well, I visit I texted with Roman, who lives in he lives a key of and I just I did ask him I was like how I was like, Are things going to be any better this year. And this is, you know, this is right after I texted the reason I texted him was because they had just ramped up on the bombings because of the offer of you know, tanks from the US and and the European Union. And so that, of course, brought on a new barrage of attacks. And so he's like, how do you sleep? He's slept through the night. And he's like, Oh, he goes, the wife and kids don't wake up when the bombs go off. But it goes, I can usually sleep through it. And I was like, just how man, I just can't imagine what that's like, you know, and I know they're I know, they're intercepting most of them. But there are a few that are still getting through. But I and I asked him I was like so what's the what's the outlook for for crops in Ukraine this year? And, and he said, Well, they're still it's still struggling getting inputs, like fertilizer and stuff like that. And he gets he says as long as this keeps up because I don't see it being much different than it was the year before. So 2023 shouldn't be in terms of output is not going to be much different than than 2022. So it's going to be it's going to be reduced. It's going to be down you know, this is This is one, one person's opposite one person's observations in Ukraine. And he's he's got a pretty good, pretty good touch with a lot of farmers in Ukraine, because that's who he works with so and so I kind of I trust what he says. So.

Paul Yeager: So then does that mean anything to us sunflower producers? I mean, again, it's different types of sunflowers. But

Cameron Peirce: You know, the the price of sunflowers right now, I mean, it still seems like the sunflower market here in the US is driven more domestically than then then globally. I know it's a global environment. But North Dakota, South Dakota had really good sunflowers this year, Kansas did not, we were, there was a few bright spots around I'm talking to a few guys that said that the there's some car production was their best crop. And despite the in the in terms of the drought, and so there was extra, something that could harvest. But like you, I've been hearing around, we went around the table at the National Sunflower Association meeting in in December. And they were like, you know, 20 503,000 pounds 30 100. And, you know, all the way around the table until we got to, to Tom Kirkmeyer and I are from Tom's from Colorado, he lives out by the airport, and farms by the airport in Denver. And, and then myself and it has yields were, you know, some fives, and so 500 pounds, and my yields were, I mean, we were 500 to 900 pounds. And so we we brought the bar way, way down on the yields. And it's like it's just, you know, hate the rain on the parade. But we did not have good, we did not have good crops, you know. And I know Tom, Tom's been struggling worse and worse than we have, because this doesn't hurt just as rain out there. That part of the state very much of Colorado. So

Paul Yeager: well, let's say I'm gonna back out I'm sitting here looking at the Drought Monitor on the other monitor to him, you know, I look at Colorado, the the eastern part of the state is is dry, Nebraska is dry all the way up to the Dakotas are dry, but whether you believe La Nina is done and El Nino is here, or we're stuck in another drought pattern. That we're out of control of that weather. So I don't know how that's the back to your farmers are always the eternal optimist. It's hard to be optimistic with some crops this year. It is

Cameron Peirce: but as you know, as with the, with the new year that comes on, I mean, you have to I mean, if you weren't if you didn't have some sort of optimism, I mean, this is not the business for you. You know, I mean, it's just plain and simple. If you can't be looking at it with an optimistic, I mean, you just you don't need to be farming because I mean, if farming has its ups and its downs, and you just kind of have to manage those, the tenants stay on even an even playing field. And, you know, because I've, I've already been hearing from another another buddy of mine that says we're in the middle of an 89 year drought, or an 89 year cycle where this this is gonna give like another three years of drought and it's like, can't get much worse than this. I mean, you what you're telling me is, wish, you know, anyway, as like, you know, I'm just gonna keep praying that we'll get rain. And that, you know, God will confound all the prognosticators and we'll get rain. So, you know, it's, you know, they're here comes the optimist in me. So, you know, we'll just, we'll just go with that. So,

Paul Yeager: well, the 89 year cycle that is it's actually what we talked about last week on the show was that weather cycle, and that's what Shawn kind of believes is, that's where, you know, that's why he disagrees that we're coming. He thinks Yes, it's going to be dry, and it starts to get a, I think he got the attention of some of those in the the corn region, he says, you know, Iowa and southern Minnesota and Illinois into Indiana has been able to catch enough rain to grow enough corn to make up for drought in other places. But how long can you do that? And when when a corn crop is off, when you're not in the middle of corn country, what's that do to you?

Cameron Peirce: I mean, it's, it's, I mean, it's, it's, it's tough. I mean, you don't want to you don't want to just assume that you're gonna get the rain but I mean, you have to you have to, like I say, you have to prepare, you know, and just be be ready for whatever comes I guess. So.

Paul Yeager: Is there anything that can be done? I mean, back to the the soil that doesn't have any roots in it. You can't really plant a tree that's dried as a windbreak. You can't. If you can't get it to grow, you can't irrigate where you don't have. So I mean, do you get nervous about these things that start saying the Dust Bowl is about to return to Kansas?

Cameron Peirce: You know what there are so so the problem I think it's twofold. First of all, it's dry, we can't do anything about it. Second is more people have gotten away from using as as many chemicals and no till, because of the price. You know, last year, things really got crazy in prices. And so some people were like, well, I just pull out the disk and, and the chisel and we'll be, we'll be fine. I'll make we'll save some money by telling our grounds. And those are the guys that right now that don't have any, any cover on the ground. Like if they would put a wheat crop out there and clean tilled it, then they're going to be subject to me, you know, things blowing this area, maybe not quite as much as way as as way out west. But I mean, you know, it comes up because we've had enough moisture, it's spotty, we've had enough moisture, kind of get a standard wheat. So we we do have some cover on the ground, and all of our stuff, I mean, so we do a little bit of canola, and we have to tell the ground for canola. So we'll do a vertical till on some canola ground because this kind of just get rid of a little bit of residue. And I know I'm speaking on both sides of my mouth here. But that's the only way we can raise a crop of canola. And gone and I both been trying to figure out a way to eliminate doing doing that. And so we're actually switching to a different crop called camelina. That doesn't mind the the residue, canola does not like residue, it sets its growing point artificially high and then like gets really cold and winter kills out. And so camelina doesn't have that that doesn't have that issue. So we're experimenting with it and seeing if we can make that work as as a rotational crop within our wheat system. So we got two years of wheat, and then a year of camelina and then back to wheat, and stuff like that. And then and all being no till we can control grassy species within our wheat, the same way we did with canola. So so we're hoping it's a good fit, and we can get away from completely tilling anything at all. And we do a lot of cover crops. And so that's, that's a big part of our operation is building soil health, trying to do the best thing for our soil that we can, while we can, when we can, when we get some rain, because you can get, like I said, you can do all the best, you have all the best intentions out there. But if it doesn't rain, I mean, you're just out of luck. You know, it's just plain plain and simple. I mean, time you timely rain. So...

Paul Yeager: Well, and if the soil is healthy, when you do get that rain, it hopefully can take advantage and and do as much producing as it is it can be

Cameron Peirce: And not only that you want you want your soul to be a sponge. And so you want when it when you get it, you know how hard to drain, you want all that to just soak in, you don't want any of it to run off. And so that's our goal is to capture every every drop of rain that falls onto our pieces of land. And so, you know, that way we build up that that moisture on our land, if if other neighbors or whatever, don't don't want to do that. I mean, that's their prerogative, but we want to try to do the best thing we can for, for our land and try to build up, you know, the soil as best we can. And so it's a process Connors car has been teaching me and, you know, I'm hoping I'm not getting in his way too much. So, but because I want him to be able to explore and do things and you know, you know, just spread his wings. And, and, and the soil health. We had a soil health meeting two weeks ago as it gets its lineup, and my wife and I and, and my oldest son all went to that. And so we're make sure the whole family is on board with what we're doing. And so you know, educating, Jeanne, that my wife is very much in favor of it. And so trying to, you know, reduce our dependency on synthetic fertilizers and stuff like that, and don't soil so

Paul Yeager: Well. And that's also something that's been learned since the 30s is soil health. And you just, you can never prepare when the tap goes dry, but you can be ready. I mean, you're you try to be like you said ready for anything. And when things happen when the Lord provides the rain, you know, the clouds align, you're there. You can, as you said, absorb that water that's there, have the health soil and and know that. Yeah, maybe plowing wasn't the best thing for us here in this area. Yeah, man. When you hear the young when he talked, I think you said something about the Farm Bureau session with some young producers. What, what are they asking you this year?

Cameron Peirce: You know, we were pretty much just talking sunflowers up there when we were there. And we were just trying to you know, just build awareness of of sunflowers in a in a crop rotation for him. I mean, it was basically at a trade show. And so they would come to our booth and in talk and I mean, there was there was close to 500 young farmers and ranchers there. And so they were obviously not all of them stopped by our booth. But you know, the optimism was Was there a you know, farmers, the eternal optimist. I mean, everybody was in a good mood. I mean, nobody was, was doom and gloom that I talked to outside of the one the one friend of mine, it's, it's my age from western Kansas. That was Like, you know, two years of no rain, no crops have come up, you know, he was a bit of doom and gloom but I mean, he still had a smile on his face. So, you know, it's like what do you what do you do? I mean, he has some irrigation so I mean, you know, they have something to fall back on but still, you know, but I'd say I'd say in law by and large it was it was a it was a good good turnout good good networking and so we got some some good contacts for you know, pushing sunflowers and making sunflowers a bigger a better fit for Kansas. Well, that's

Paul Yeager: I was gonna ask, are you getting anybody converted to become makers?

Cameron Peirce: I think acres are going up. I mean, you know, we have in in Kansas and Colorado. We're, I think, right at 100,000 acres, roughly. And so we're trying to there's there's a lot of southwest Kansas irrigated there's one producer has 6000 acres of irrigated confectionery flowers, and I've never done confectionery flowers, we're gonna try a field this year, we need to have you have to have a contract for those seeking make sure you get rid of them, but working with Red River commodities, and in Lubbock, Texas, and so getting some, some insights and, and knowledge on on how to do that. So it was a little more maintenance, I guess, I guess you want to, they have other insects and diseases that would affect the cut confectionaries that maybe wouldn't affect the oilseed flowers. So it'd be a learning experience. So new.  Yeah. So in the different type. So always, yes, something a new? Oh, well, it works this way, but not this way. Yeah, totally learning that's different than let a corner of being producer has to deal with Yeah, your variety, so different. A lot of different crops. So it's, it's hard. It's hard to keep on top of all of

Paul Yeager: them. Well, yeah. And I go back to the one that you said, you're planning in place of canola and tell me what that's used for

Cameron Peirce: Camelina it's actually a, it's a, it's an oil seed. And it's a really small seed. I got what got a hold this up to the camera, but it's a really small seeded, flick off the size of alfalfa seed. And so so it's it's an oil seed. And so it's used in making biodiesel. And so there's a company and I think it's either dodge or garden city. It's called Sustainable oils that were growing it through them. And so So yeah, so you plant you kind of plant that, basically, after you're done plant wheat kind of middle of middle of November, December, and then harvest before wheat. So it's kind of a quick growing crop. So. So yeah, so it's kind of excited to try that. So it's always fun to try new crops. So

Paul Yeager: I know you have a bunch of crops on your area. But what about the livestock folks around you? Are they given weather conditions? Making changes or needing something else to help them along? What do you hear about your livestock friends around you?

Cameron Peirce: Yeah, I mean, we actually, we're not, we're not big fans of taking taking residue off the ground. And, you know, but man that the livestock producers were what they were hurting this year, he's buying feed, and it's expensive. And you know, we we ended up chopping some some corn, we just basically took the ears off the corn and left the plant there, which I'm glad we did. Because if we would have taken it all off, I mean, that ground would have blown and then we didn't have one field where we did swap and bail, some failed corn. And that was a mistake. I mean, we just it just left a left the field bear. And it did, it didn't blow on us. I mean, we even though we didn't tell it, there was just nothing there to to hold it in. It was kind of protected and back in the trees. And Scott's kind of wiped out. Well, we can, we can do this, but it's still the wind got down in there. And you could still tell it would have eroded a little bit. So you know, we we plant a weed in there, and we've got to stand a weed. So I mean, we've stopped the blowing. But it still it was disappointing. And, you know, Connor doesn't he never misses an opportunity to remind me of why we don't do something. I don't know if you'll get that maybe when your kids get older. But I mean, you know, it's like, this is why we don't do this.

Paul Yeager: Your ways, Dad. Let's rethink that. No, no, no. So, to wrap up 2022 I think that the word you're saying is disappointing.

Cameron Peirce: It is. Yeah. I mean, it was disappointing. I mean, there wasn't we had seven seven crops and and six, six insurance claims on those crops that we had, you know, the only one that technically didn't have a insurance claim was the cotton. And it wasn't by it just just didn't have it. I mean, we were at the bare minimum, you know, and so, and we probably have better cotton than the neighbors did. We just cut a couple rains are headed on better ground or whatever, so, but

Paul Yeager: you're gonna put cotton in this year.

Cameron Peirce: TBD. Then the cotton price is not that great right now because it kind of cotton kind of tracks the Dow and when the Dow drops, nobody wants to buy clothes, you know, I mean, that's it's a signal of the state of the economy, you know, and so nobody wants to buy their, their their clothes and so cotton went from a buck 35 A pound down to like 80 cents a pound. You know. So it's, it's, it's really dropped. And so we'll see. I mean, I can make that decision clear up until April. And but I don't know it may be something else on fires or Milo or something else. So but cotton's an expensive crop to put out. Right. So

Paul Yeager: and it's not easy. Lots of lots of issues there on infrastructure that you have to deal with too.

Cameron Peirce: Yeah, yep. Yep. All right, Cameron.

Paul Yeager: Well keep the optimism high for us.

Cameron Peirce: Okay, well, you know, Paul, it's always good to visit with you. You always make the make the interview so easy and stuff. So I enjoy talking to you about anything farming,

Paul Yeager: so I enjoy. You given me time because it is hard to pin you down. You guys in the middle of winter. You think you're slow but you're anything but I'm glad we found a window to talk.

Cameron Peirce: Oh, yeah. Well, appreciate what you do. Oh, all right. Thanks, Cameron. You bet. Thank you.

Paul Yeager: Thanks to Cameron Pierce. Always appreciate the time always a good chat in the time seems to fly when we start recording. Thank you for watching. We will see you next time. New episodes drop each and every Tuesday here from Market to Market.

 

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